1636: The Atlantic Encounter
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Summary
THE BEST-SELLING RING OF FIRE SERIES CONQUERS THE NEW WORLD！
It has taken almost five years for the United States of Europe to stabilize its position in 17th-century Europe。 Now it turns its attention to the New World， where the English have ceded their colonial claims to France。 There are vast lands and rich resources across the Atlantic for any nations powerful enough to rule and control them—and equal incentive for other nations to block their path。
The time-displaced Americans know about the future path that led to their own United States in North America， in the other universe they came from。 But do they want to repeat that history as it was？ Yes， they had democracy—but they are helping to create that in Europe。 And they have learned the bitter prices paid for chattel slavery and the near-extermination of the native populations。
Knowledge is power。 Perhaps a new course can be taken。 Accordingly， an expedition is sent to the New World to see just what might be happening there and what might be done。 They are armed with their technology， among which are a radio and an airship。 More importantly， they are armed with the knowledge of future history and their determination not to repeat the errors of their past。
What could possibly go wrong？
About Eric Flint:
“This alternate history series is 。 。 。 a landmark 。 。 。 ”—Booklist
“[Eric] Flint's 1632 universe seems to be inspiring a whole new crop of gifted alternate historians。”—Booklist
"[R]eads like a technothriller set in the age of the Medicis 。 。 。 ”—Publishers Weekly
About Walter H。 Hunt:
"A compelling and immersive novel in which every word feels authentic and every chapter draws the reader deeper into the dark and terrifying power of the mind。”—New York Journal of Books
It has taken almost five years for the United States of Europe to stabilize its position in 17th-century Europe。 Now it turns its attention to the New World， where the English have ceded their colonial claims to France。 There are vast lands and rich resources across the Atlantic for any nations powerful enough to rule and control them—and equal incentive for other nations to block their path。
The time-displaced Americans know about the future path that led to their own United States in North America， in the other universe they came from。 But do they want to repeat that history as it was？ Yes， they had democracy—but they are helping to create that in Europe。 And they have learned the bitter prices paid for chattel slavery and the near-extermination of the native populations。
Knowledge is power。 Perhaps a new course can be taken。 Accordingly， an expedition is sent to the New World to see just what might be happening there and what might be done。 They are armed with their technology， among which are a radio and an airship。 More importantly， they are armed with the knowledge of future history and their determination not to repeat the errors of their past。
What could possibly go wrong？
About Eric Flint:
“This alternate history series is 。 。 。 a landmark 。 。 。 ”—Booklist
“[Eric] Flint's 1632 universe seems to be inspiring a whole new crop of gifted alternate historians。”—Booklist
"[R]eads like a technothriller set in the age of the Medicis 。 。 。 ”—Publishers Weekly
About Walter H。 Hunt:
"A compelling and immersive novel in which every word feels authentic and every chapter draws the reader deeper into the dark and terrifying power of the mind。”—New York Journal of Books
Reviews
Michael Gerardi
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Another enjoyable read in the "Ring of Fire" series。 The up-timer interaction with early colonial Americans was fascinating， and brought home the oft-overlooked fact that the original colonies were very diverse and not always friendly。 Their efforts to prevent the new 17th century from repeating the mistakes of our own timeline will hopefully bear fruit in future volumes。 It was noted， however， that as time goes on there will be fewer and fewer up-timers left in the post-Ring world， so time is l Another enjoyable read in the "Ring of Fire" series。 The up-timer interaction with early colonial Americans was fascinating， and brought home the oft-overlooked fact that the original colonies were very diverse and not always friendly。 Their efforts to prevent the new 17th century from repeating the mistakes of our own timeline will hopefully bear fruit in future volumes。 It was noted， however， that as time goes on there will be fewer and fewer up-timers left in the post-Ring world， so time is literally not their friend。 Stay tuned。 。。。more
Kevin Brown
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An encapsulation of the entire premise of the series。 A very small number of modern Americans stuck in the past try to make things better。 The main characters use their knowledge to create a blimp and along with some friendly downtimers explore American as it was in 1636。 The locals expect them to have the technological version of a magic wand to solve all their problems but their just isn't one。 Instead we go along with the protagonists to see what life was really like。 Exposing many of the fla An encapsulation of the entire premise of the series。 A very small number of modern Americans stuck in the past try to make things better。 The main characters use their knowledge to create a blimp and along with some friendly downtimers explore American as it was in 1636。 The locals expect them to have the technological version of a magic wand to solve all their problems but their just isn't one。 Instead we go along with the protagonists to see what life was really like。 Exposing many of the flaws， prejudices and beliefs of those of the time。 In the hands of an incompetent writer this would be dull but instead the story is full of life and political intrigue。 Changes from other books affect the story which helps keep the book feeling part of a larger whole。 。。。more
Julia
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Some of this was interesting， but mostly it was the main up-timer character realizing that his education about U。S。 history wasn't helping him relate to how people lived in North America in the years following the Ring of Fire。Up-timers Gordon and Peter Chenab are sent on a fact-finding mission to North America by Ed Piazza and his intelligence director Enrico Miro （who took over for Francisco Nasi）。 Once the Chenabs get on the boat， there is basically no mention of any other Grantville characte Some of this was interesting， but mostly it was the main up-timer character realizing that his education about U。S。 history wasn't helping him relate to how people lived in North America in the years following the Ring of Fire。Up-timers Gordon and Peter Chenab are sent on a fact-finding mission to North America by Ed Piazza and his intelligence director Enrico Miro （who took over for Francisco Nasi）。 Once the Chenabs get on the boat， there is basically no mention of any other Grantville characters。The story and third-person POV alternates between the Chernabs and an Alsatian who is serving as a spy for the French。This is not focused on military issues， which was a nice change from some of the other 163x books。 。。。more
Jeff
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Solid book， good story explosive events。
James
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A standalone novel in the series， the two uptimer protagonists， the Chelab brothers， felt a bit flat but I liked the spunky， orphan spy and the runaway dyer characters。 A decent read。
Kurt Haserodt
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Pleasant though plodding read。 Concept was intriguing。 Liked being prodded to learn more about colonial North America。 Just found myself waiting to get to climax。 Then it all wrapped up very quickly。
Alex Shrugged
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I liked this book。 I didn't love it。 It follows minor characters （two uptimer brothers and a downtimer woman doctor） from the series acting as a fact-finding mission to North America and being followed by a French spy sent （indirectly） by their old nemesis， Cardinal Richelieu。 It all made sense in terms of the possible actions the American colonists would have taken if the King of England had turned his holding over to France。。。 that is。。。 misplaced fighting amongst themselves。Any modesty issues I liked this book。 I didn't love it。 It follows minor characters （two uptimer brothers and a downtimer woman doctor） from the series acting as a fact-finding mission to North America and being followed by a French spy sent （indirectly） by their old nemesis， Cardinal Richelieu。 It all made sense in terms of the possible actions the American colonists would have taken if the King of England had turned his holding over to France。。。 that is。。。 misplaced fighting amongst themselves。Any modesty issues？ Well。。。 the word "bullsh-t" was used a few times， but that was about it for vulgar language。 Sex was discussed indirectly and in a mature manner。I might read this book again， but only as part of reading the series again， or in need of background for a sequel。 。。。more
Aristoj
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Continuing the good story of The Ring of Fire。Good job。
Ron Nurmi
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another in the 1632 series。 It covers the first return to the northern American colonies as a scouting mission and trying to see that is there。
Audra
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I think this series in hitting the point where they're spreading themselves too thin and nothing gets resolved anymore I think this series in hitting the point where they're spreading themselves too thin and nothing gets resolved anymore 。。。more
Joe
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This is a good storyline in a popular alternate history series。 I found it interesting that the story centered on two primary characters that I don't recall ever hearing about before， with the bulk of the protagonists we usually see either peripherally connected or not mentioned at all。 Plenty of intrigue but I personally did think that it ended too abruptly。 But a worthwhile read in a good series！ This is a good storyline in a popular alternate history series。 I found it interesting that the story centered on two primary characters that I don't recall ever hearing about before， with the bulk of the protagonists we usually see either peripherally connected or not mentioned at all。 Plenty of intrigue but I personally did think that it ended too abruptly。 But a worthwhile read in a good series！ 。。。more
Kathryn Baron
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It took me far longer than usual for my reading to gain momentum。 I didn't start really wondering what's next？ Until about 25% in。 If it wasn't part of a series the book might have been DFN。 However， I did finish and it was ok。 The characters are for the most part amiable。 BUT really。 The failure to deal with disease as then largest problem for the native Americans， when it's already been raised as a problem multiple times in earlier stories？ Also no mention of slavery in Virginia？ File under fa It took me far longer than usual for my reading to gain momentum。 I didn't start really wondering what's next？ Until about 25% in。 If it wasn't part of a series the book might have been DFN。 However， I did finish and it was ok。 The characters are for the most part amiable。 BUT really。 The failure to deal with disease as then largest problem for the native Americans， when it's already been raised as a problem multiple times in earlier stories？ Also no mention of slavery in Virginia？ File under fantasy not alternate history。 。。。more
Cordelia
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That was really good。 A good rollicking adventure。 A worthy new addition to the series。Thank you to Edelweiss， the publisher and the author for sending me this ARC。
Robert Zielazinski
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A good yarnRelatively few of the characters that in other booksOur hillbillies are not the conquering heroes。。。But they interesting and believable， and all the science makes sense。
Jeremy
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A weakness in a shared universe is that some writers are just not as talented as others。 Or their inspiration appeals to a niche audience。 Either way， this book suffers from the same problem as a number of the recent novels （The China Venture， Mission to the Mughals， Seas of Fortune） - they're just boring。 Nothing actually happens。 If those particular settings aren't your jam then these books are not worth the time to read。I have enjoyed the main line series， and quite a few of the other works。 A weakness in a shared universe is that some writers are just not as talented as others。 Or their inspiration appeals to a niche audience。 Either way， this book suffers from the same problem as a number of the recent novels （The China Venture， Mission to the Mughals， Seas of Fortune） - they're just boring。 Nothing actually happens。 If those particular settings aren't your jam then these books are not worth the time to read。I have enjoyed the main line series， and quite a few of the other works。 But I won't bother reading any more of this type。 。。。more
Allen McDonnell
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Well worth the priceA nice summer read， scattered moments of action to spice things up but really a story exploring what has become of North America in 1636。 This is the book many gave been eagerly waiting for as so little in the 1632-verse had taken place in North America in comparison to Europe and East Asia。
James
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A trade mission is sent to the new world to try and head of French expansion。
Mark Hazen
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Perhaps the weakest of the seriesI love this series， but this one is the weakest in concept and execution。 From the nearly illegible maps that do not correspond to the text through the lack of knowledge of the geography to the simplistic dialogue。 Simply not one of Eric’s better efforts - it’s like it got pushed out without going to the editor。
Ronald Spitzer
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Enjoyable book in the Ring of Fire series。 It goes into the east coast of the Atlantic North America and the early settlements and how they are bing affected by the Ring of Fire。 Logical and ties in well with the events in Europe in this alternate history world。 It stands alone， but also makes you want to read the next one， which likely will be published in a year of two。
Michael Brown
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Sorry but this volume was the least likeable of the series。 It was BORING。 Most of the volume seemed to be filler。 Too much BLAH BLAH BLAH with little real content。 Several characters were not needed and definitely acted a filler to stretch out the book。 Not recommended for those who lke the alternate series。
Judy Cornell lewis
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Interesting and intriguingI enjoy the 1632 series， and this one continues the story。 Pulled me in held my attention and carried me along。 Now an looking for the next step in the journey。
Kevin
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It seemed like a bit of an incomplete story。。。 Setting up future stories maybe。
Bill
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I felt at times the Americans' embassy was woefully short of 'statecraftiness'。 But of course not every uptimer is going to be the best ambassador of American ideals。 Good story overall but let's give the Puritan stereotype a little rest。 I felt at times the Americans' embassy was woefully short of 'statecraftiness'。 But of course not every uptimer is going to be the best ambassador of American ideals。 Good story overall but let's give the Puritan stereotype a little rest。 。。。more
Dan
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An enjoyable read！
Joe Price
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Statesman or Spy？Having read a number of， if not most of， the FOR novels， I found this book to be similar， yet different from the others。 Not wishing the need for spoiler alerts， I will say that I did enjoy it。 Now， on to the next book。。。
Debrac2014
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I enjoyed this！ I was very interested in how the early settlements were depicted！
Roy
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The next book in the 163X/Ring-of-Fire series includes a visit to the 17th Century Atlantic Colonies （New Holland， New England， New France， Maryland and Virginia）。 For these people most of the impacts of the future ideas transplanted into Germany are very much secondary and tertiary effects， particularly the ceding of English colonies to France as part of the rearrangement of power relationships in Europe。I enjoy this series enough to have thought this was a worthwhile read at a time when I want The next book in the 163X/Ring-of-Fire series includes a visit to the 17th Century Atlantic Colonies （New Holland， New England， New France， Maryland and Virginia）。 For these people most of the impacts of the future ideas transplanted into Germany are very much secondary and tertiary effects， particularly the ceding of English colonies to France as part of the rearrangement of power relationships in Europe。I enjoy this series enough to have thought this was a worthwhile read at a time when I wanted distraction， but this isn't really one of the highlights of the series。 The usual high interest of this series -- how the ideas of liberty and science coming 250 years early could change the world -- is here playing decidedly second place to the impacts of new opportunities for individuals （uptimers and downtimers alike）。 That made for an interesting adventure yarn， but not one that will stay with me like some of the others。 。。。more
Christopher Alexandrov
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Less than I could have beenThis book has some interesting things happening within， but its success is impeded by what isn’t here。 At least five major plot points in the book involve characters doing something completely unexpected， and almost universally passive。 When these surprises occur the reader waits endlessly for the plot to resolve them， but it never does。 Complete with a totally unnecessary epilogue， this book suffers from poor editing and a deep misunderstanding of basic plot and chara Less than I could have beenThis book has some interesting things happening within， but its success is impeded by what isn’t here。 At least five major plot points in the book involve characters doing something completely unexpected， and almost universally passive。 When these surprises occur the reader waits endlessly for the plot to resolve them， but it never does。 Complete with a totally unnecessary epilogue， this book suffers from poor editing and a deep misunderstanding of basic plot and character construction。 Sad！ 。。。more
Juliann Thompson
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Worse of the seriesJust too silly， lightning sneaks up on them？ Beyond the normal silly meatballs and misunderstanding caused by uptimers。 Obviously another series set in the new world to go along with the ones we have going on in Newfoundland， the Caribbean， and the Pacific northwest。 If we had New stories more than once every three years that might not be so bad。
Brian
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